Online Drum Tracks - Tips for Success

Online Drum Tracks - Tips For Success
Getting custom drum tracks for your music from an online session drummer is a great idea for several reasons, but there are things you need to know to make good decisions.

Congratulations for recognizing an opportunity : you are looking into getting custom drum tracks from an online rock drum track provider. Using today’s technology to get something you need (while saving money and time) makes a lot of sense.

For those who already are hip to the advantages of getting your custom drum tracks online, I am going to help you better understand how to make good choices in terms of which provider to go with.

But first bear with me while I review the ways in which getting your drum tracks online can save you loads of time and money.

There is always the traditional way of doing things, which involves having to pay a lot of people and basically goes like this:

First, you rent a studio to record in. Rates can depend on a lot of things, including the area the studio is in. Studios located in more expensive areas are of course likely to charge more because of high rent. For a well-equipped studio, rates average around $150 per hour.

Secondly, using the traditional method, you have to hire one or more sound engineers. Sometimes the same person will set up the mics and run Pro Tools, Logic or whatever recording platform is in use. But often there will be two engineers, which of course raises your expense.

So far, you've got potentially three people you have to pay so far: the owner of the studio and possibly two engineers. Add the session drummer to the mix and that makes minimum three and possibly four people you have to pay for your custom drum tracks. If your budget has no limits, that’s fine, but if you seek to save money (without compromising quality, of course) there is a better alternative: getting your custom drum tracks over the internet from an online session drummer.

What a cool time we’re living in, getting to see technology expanding so rapidly and all the exciting changes that come with it. The ability to get do recording sessions over the internet is one of those things that seems highly unusual now but within one year or two will be quite common. But as of now this is a relatively new development and is in its beginning stages.

Not to digress, let me get to the point: What a huge advantage for those needing custom drum tracks for their music! Instead of having to pay someone for a room in a studio, pay and engineer or engineers, and pay a session drummer you can now pay ONE person, the online session drummer. This will save you loads of money, and you won’t have to leave your home.

You just send the files of your songs to whoever is doing your drum sessions online, they record the custom drum tracks, then they send you the individual drum tracks after you have approved them and paid. That’s a lot easier than coordinating the schedules of multiple people with yours, and it means huge potential savings in terms of travel budget for a recording.

And if you are in Europe or Canada, you can save even more money using an American to do your drum tracks online, as the dollar is very weak right now and the exchange rate will work very much in your favor.

Okay, now that everyone is up to speed on the advantages of getting your drum tracks from an online session drummer, lets get to the point of this article:
You need to understand your options in choosing an online drum track provider, so lets discuss what to look for in order to make good decisions.

Or perhaps I should say what to LISTEN for, because the first priority is GREAT SOUND.

Regardless of how perfectly an online session drummer plays on a track, if the recording quality is not of a professional, master quality level then its no good (unless your music artistically benefits from a lo-fi drum sound).

So lets establish this right away, that you want to compare websites and find which online studio drummers are providing clients with a truly professional product in terms of sound quality. And as you compare websites, you will surely notice that there are different levels of sound quality represented!

There are two main reasons for the wide discrepancy in sound quality between some of these sites: the varying levels of recording gear used and the and the varying levels of expertise in terms of sound engineering.

The bottom line is this: your ears will be able to tell the difference between an online studio drummer with little sound engineering experience using mediocre recording gear and someone with sound engineering expertise using the highest level, state-of-the-art recording gear. Logically speaking, the online session drummer you choose must either be a professional sound engineer himself or be working with one.

Most drummers, even if they know some stuff, are not professional sound engineers. On some of the Internet drum session websites you can really hear that fact.

It would seem that the bulk of these sites are run by drummers who play well, but are not using pro-quality microphones to record with. It sounds as if they don’t know much about placement of those mics either. Nor does it sound like they have a good room to record in.

Many online drum track providers have no analog equipment, and many have only eight or fewer inputs available to them.
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Basically you can hear that there are many weak links in the recording chain on some of these online drum track websites.

And then there are a few sites that represent sound quality that is somewhat more acceptable…but still definitely “demo quality” as opposed to “master quality”.

As it turns out, there are precious few online drum track websites out there that are offering truly professional, “major label quality” sound quality! As far as sites that offer tracks for under $150 per track, I literally only found four that I considered to be in this category.

These sites are obviously run by online session drummers who either are professional sound engineers themselves or are using one, and are using the highest quality recording gear, with no weak links in the recording chain.

The rest of the sites offering this high sound quality level are run by guys you may have heard of such as J.R. Robinson, whom charge fees that are out reach for many based on their names.

So your first order of business will be to “weed out” the lemons, which frankly are most of them.

Warning: don’t be tricked into listening with your eyes, because some of the worst-sounding sites I found actually looked very professional and had a great presentation. But lots of flash content and visual presentation in general should have nothing to do with which online studio drummer you use.

In terms of rates, you can be suspicious of the sound quality of anyone charging less than $100 per song. Go ahead and do your own research, I’m just saying you get what you pay for. I actually found a very slick-looking site offering tracks for only $35 per song…WOW, that is cheap, and it truly sounded that way, like drums in a garage (and not in a good way).

My strong advice to anyone would be to spend what is necessary to get master quality custom drum tracks. It is still more affordable than ever before to do so because of online sessions. And if that means getting your budget together takes a few more months, it will be well worth it in the end.

Now that you fully understand how important it is to get major-label quality drum tracks (with no weak links in the recording chain), your next order of business will be to compare the level of communication that would be involved with any site you may choose.

I noticed that some sites had forms to fill out, several asking about artistic considerations such as when in the song the drums should enter, what sort of vibe is desired, or if the approach should be similar to that of a specific song or drummer.

This is a great place to start, but while some sites ended it there, other sites offer real-time communication through Skype or similar programs, which allow the session drummer and client to speak to each other during the recording session.

Obviously this type of setup involves a great level of communication and increases the likelihood of the your getting what you need musically from your online drum tracks.

This can easily save you money as well, as all of the sites I looked at charge extra fees for additional takes, often referred to as "mods" (modifications), or "re-dos". This is totally fair, but having to do an excessive number of takes per song can be avoided with the better communication offered by some of the sites.

Your last order of business in choosing what online session drummer to go with is the fun part: deciding which drummer would serve your music best!

Remember, if you like the playing but the sound quality is not at a master quality level, then its not good enough for your music.

Once you have narrowed your decision down to the websites offering the highest level sound quality, you just need to listen for which drummer sounds like the one to handle your songs the most musically.

Of course you want to listen for things like groove/feel, energy level (some guys sound like they are just “going through the motions”), dynamics, musicality of parts, support of vocals, etc.

So lets summarize: when choosing an online drum track provider, find one that will give you tracks of major-label sound, uses an online session drummer whose playing you really dig, and is going to be able to communicate effectively with you, hopefully in real time. I hope this article has been of some help to you, and that you feel ready to make some good decisions. Enjoy your creativity!

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Session Drummer Shay Godwin

"Shay Godwin is one of the top session drummers I've had the pleasure of working with. He's a one take wonder, which is great in the studio because time is money. Shay was extremely professional, and well prepared. He has killer sounding drums, and was able to give me all kinds of snare tones to choose from. We will be working together for many years."- Jay Ruston, Producer/Engineer/Mixer, credits include Brian Wilson, The Donnas, Abandoned Pools, Dianna Ross, American Idol, Morrissey, Polyphonic Spree, Meatloaf

Shay Godwin is a versatile professional session drummer who has accompanied many very creative independent and major label artists. He brings both power and subtlety to any music he is involved in.

Some of the artists Shay has performed and/or recorded with include Charlotte Martin (RCA), Butterfly Boucher (Interscope/Geffen), Paul Freeman (Arista), Rama Duke (Hollywood), and James Blunt (Atlantic).

All of the brush samples on the BFD premium drum module 1st edition expansion kit were performed by Shay.

In 2004 Shay was honored to contribute drum tracks to "Eight O'Clock at the Shop", an independent release by singer Caren Manuel on which many great musicians played including Al McKay (guitar - Earth, Wind, & Fire) and Tim Carmon (keyboards - Eric Clapton, Babyface, Marcus Miller).

On Sarah MacLachlan's 2004 Afterglow Tour, Shay played with the opening artist Butterfly Boucher, with whom he also performed on AOL Sessions Live.

Shay has toured the world several times with legendary Persian singer Siavash Ghomayshi.

Shay's drumming has been heard in the the film "The Breakup" (WB) and on television shows "Las Vegas"(NBC), "One Tree Hill"(WB), "Summerland"(WB), "Twilight Zone"(Sci-Fi) and others.

Television appearances include the Late Late Show (CBS), The Sharon Osbourne Show, MTV's Advance Warning, "Las Vegas"(NBC), "Miss Match"(NBC), and "Charmed"(WB).

Shay proudly endorses Vater Percussion, Aquarian Drumheads, Axis pedals/hardware and Turkish Cymbals.

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Major Label-Quality Custom Drum Tracks From A Versatile Session Drummer

Email Us Now At Shay@eDrumSessions.com


"How to Easily Get Killer, Pro Drum Tracks of the Highest Sound Quality: Risk Free!"


Dear friend,

Do you need custom drum tracks of the highest sound quality?

Are you deterred by the massive costs you have paid for drum tracks in the past, including:
studio time by the hour (including setup/teardown time!), staff engineers, and cartage (transportation of drums to and from studio) in addition to paying the drummer?

Have you spent hour after frustrating hour with drum sample software such as BFD, painstakingly putting drum samples together in a useless attempt to make them sound like a custom drum track – when you KNOW it will never be the same as a real custom drum track played by a session drummer for your song?

Maybe you've considered getting your drum tracks online, straight from an online studio drummer who does it all himself with no sound engineer...

... But you should know that's a mistake, because even though you may save a pile of money compared to renting a studio by the hour and paying multiple people, you're probably going to end up getting tracks that sound like they're made by some kid in his parent's garage, not the pro drum tracks you need.

The unfortunate truth is that while they may be great players, many online session drummers are learning sound engineering on the job...

...And these well-meaning guys are also using a lot of mid-level recording gear and cheaper mics and cables, all resulting in many weak links in the recording chain...

...and here is the secret they don't want you to know:


Sound engineering is a serious skill that takes experience.


Novice sound engineering and a weak signal chain will get you “demo level” results, not the professional, major label quality sound you need and deserve in your drum tracks.

And don't listen to that devil on your shoulder saying "Its okay, we can run the drum tracks through plug-ins until they sound right"…

Because every one knows:You can't polish a turd!

But I've got good news for you...

YOU HAVE ANOTHER CHOICE!


Just imagine how STOKED you will be when you discover you can get major label-quality custom drum tracks for your music, completely ***RISK-FREE!!***

You can FINALLY...

  • Stop bleeding away your precious time slaving to put tracks together with a drum sample software package such as BFD...
  • Stop spending top dollar to rent studio time...
  • Stop getting poor sound quality drum tracks from a drummer who is a novice sound engineer because you want to save money -- ending up unsatisfied with the results

Hi, my name is Shay Godwin and I am a Los Angeles studio drummer.

I have recorded and performed with many independent and label artists (RCA, Interscope, Arista, Hollywood, and others) covering a multitude of styles.

I believe my calling in life is to provide musical support for artists of all flavors and styles, and nothing gives me greater satisfaction as a studio drummer than playing exactly what a song needs. Thats what custom drum tracks are all about!

"Shay is one of the most talented drummers I've ever had the pleasure of working with. He is a real musician that plays with taste, incredible feeling, and he is amazingly versatile in his styles."
Charlotte Martin: founder, Dinosaur Fight Records


As a professional who has recorded in expensive rooms (such as Capital Studio A) and has contributed to drum sample software (I did all of the brush samples on the BFD XFL premium drum module), I have a unique insight into the previously mentioned problems you can have trying to get professional quality, custom drum tracks.

I can see that drum sample software, no matter how impressive, will never make music as exciting as real drum tracks. But I can also see that that getting real, custom drum tracks for your music can be financially out of reach due to high studio costs.

I decided to come up with a solution to these problems.

So I began talking with a great sound engineer friend of mine, Thai Long Ly of TL2 Productions, who gets better drum sounds than anyone I have ever worked with.


We decided to team up to give you...

all the benefits of hiring a session drummer AND a pro sound engineer, but for less than the traditional costs of hiring a pro session drummer alone--all without paying a dime in studio time!

Here's how it works:

You send me your songs in whatever format you wish. Appropriate selections are made from a variety of great sounding, well-tuned drums to fit the style of the song.

Then, state-of-the-art analog and digital gear and high-end microphones capture solidly grooving, musical, spirited drum tracks performed with both power and subtlety.


...and you get THREE TAKES of each song you send!


That's right, ***THREE TAKES!***



Each take will have subtle to drastic differences.

That leaves you a lot of room for editing as you wish.

As client Craig Campbell of Detroit puts it,

"Your process is great. The three takes is a perfect way to make sure it works."

Now, you may wish to speak with me to communicate a general direction you want on a track; I'm all ears.

OR...

Maybe you will leave things to my judgment; you'll be happy with the results.

OR...

Perhaps you have a programmed drum pattern you would like duplicated; I'll nail it.
OR...

Some may wish to send me charts; I'll be able to read anything you send me.

However you choose to do things, you will get drum tracks of a quality you will not be able to get elsewhere...especially at an extremely LOW price...


...WITH ABSOLUTELY NO RISK TO YOU BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WANT THE DRUM TRACKS YOU JUST WALK! Your deposit (which is made upon sending us your material) will be immediately refunded and you have no obligation whatsoever!



How can I offer such a guarantee? Because I have that much confidence in my product, plain and simple.

NOT ONE CLIENT HAS OPTED OUT OF THEIR DRUM TRACKS. Our clients have been 100% ELATED, not just "satisfied".

You are going to love your custom drum tracks, and let me remind you that you will have three takes to work with and edit as you wish!


Other drum tracks sites with comparable prices will definitely not be using the same HIGH END RECORDING GEAR used here!

We're talking full-on professional studio stuff here, from a Neve 8816 board, to Royer and Audix mics, to Tara Labs cables (these are audiophile-quality cables, which makes a big difference in signal integrity) to Daking preamps. Check the gear link and see for yourself!

BUT DON'T JUST TAKE MY WORD FOR IT, USE YOUR EARS!

GO AHEAD, COMPARE OUR AUDIO SAMPLES TO THOSE OTHER DRUM TRACKS WEBSITES--THE DIFFERENCE IN SOUND QUALITY OBVIOUS! (see link at top to "Listen to Sample Drum Tracks" page)


AT EDRUMSESSIONS YOU GET:
  1. major label quality sound
  2. custom drum tracks that are passionately played for YOUR song
  3. to save huge amounts of time over putting together drum tracks from drum sample software such as BFD (that end up sounding sterile anyway)
  4. big savings over paying to rent a studio, paying for engineers, drummer, etc.
  5. a satisfying, interactive artistic experience in which you can communicate your needs to me through email or in real time (via phone or using Skype, free download)
  6. to stay in your PJs while I track killer drums for you!


"Hi Shay, the takes are perfect, exactly what I was after and played with real
passion, thanks so much!" Owen Duff, London, UK


Under conventional circumstances, to get pro drum tracks you would have to shell out a minimum of $350 per track, plus paying for studio time and engineers, etc...

...but I AM PROUD TO BRING YOU MAJOR-LABEL QUALITY DRUM TRACKS AT THE INCREDIBLE PRICE OF JUST $200 PER TRACK if you act right now!

(A 50% per track *REFUNDABLE* deposit will be required - standard procedure).

You won't find drum tracks with a comparable level of playing and sound quality at this price anywhere else.

So if you are truly committed to getting the highest quality online drum tracks for your music and saving big money risk-free then contact me right away at Shay@eDrumSessions.com

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Are you still thinking about it???

This is your ****RISK FREE*** opportunity to get the killer drum tracks that you've been dreaming about.

Take it from client Timothy Gillespie of New Jersey:
"Shay! You nailed it! Great work. You were right. I have 'inevitable glee'. You played exactly what I imagined! I'm sure putting together a mix with your drums will be easy, but you make it hard to decide which takes I want to use..."


YOU CAN'T LOSE.


So go ahead and click the button below to make your deposit, and get the communication going right away at Shay@eDrumSessions.com!



REMEMBER, getting your drum tracks here will save you lots of money over going into a studio (while reaping all the benefits of that situation) and lots of time over using drum samples (with much more musicality), and you will be STOKED with the drum sounds!



THIS IS UNDOUBTEDLY YOUR BEST BET FOR GETTING DRUM TRACKS ONLINE, so take advantage!

IF you are serious about getting the highest quality custom drum tracks and saving then get the ball rolling by contacting me right away!


Shay@eDrumSessions.com


I look forward to working with you and giving you the master-quality, custom drum tracks your music deserves.

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links/sponsors


Shay Godwin and Thai Long Ly would like to thank the following sponsors for their gracious support with our online drum recording service. Their continued support has been instrumental in our success, bringing affordable custom drum tracks of the highest quality.



Vater Percussion
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Aquarian Drumheads
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Shure Microphones


Axis Percussion
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Daking
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Shay Godwin
shaygodwin.com
myspace page


Thai Long Ly
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Monsterous bass player Derek Frank's online session website
basstracksonline.com

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Listen To Sample Tracks

Email Us At ShayDrums@eDrumSessions.com
Below are examples of drum tracks recorded at eDrumSessions
Note: Newest track samples are at the top and feature our new and killer setup.
(Also included are clips from a few songs Shay has performed on outside of eDrumSessions.)

Latest tracks:

Sample track #1
Massive Toms Sample track




Sample track #3
Sample track #4



Sample track #1 Sample track #2 Sample track #3 First double-kick example



Sample track #4 Second double-kick example Sample track #5 Sample track #6, brushes



Sample track #7 Sample track #8 Sample track #9



Sample track #10 Sample track #11 Sample Track #12




Exerpts from Songs Featuring Our Percussion



From the album "Teen TV" at Universal's music library (drum tracks recorded here on eDrumSessions)
I Just Wanna Party
It's Over

To hear more from the album "Teen TV", go to www.killertracks.com and search for the album title






Foolish - Caren Manuel, independent artist



Inside of Me - Caren Manuel I Fall Down - Caren Manuel Haunted - Charlotte Martin (from RCA release "On Your Shore")



Every Time It Rains - Charlotte Martin Chasing a Shadow - Charlotte Martin Hot Legs - JB & The Rebellion (from Home Records release)



Well, Well - Freeman (heard in the Warner bros. movie "The breakup") You and I - Freeman (from the recordings that recently got him signed to Arista by Clive Davis) Against the Ropes - Freeman



Another White Dash - Butterfly Boucher, Interscope artist (from AOL Sessions Live, please forgive sound quality) I Can't Make Me (live) - Butterfly Boucher Life Is Short (live) - Butterfly Boucher



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Drum Track Testimonials

"Shay Godwin is amazing drummer with an instinctual approach to music rarely encountered today. Every time I work with him in the studio I'm amazed at how quickly he locks in, and how great his drum sounds are." - Ken Andrews: songwriter/producer/mixer; founding member of the groundbreaking group Failure; producing/mixing credits include Charlotte Martin, A Perfect Circle, Tenacious D, Chris Cornell, Nacho Libre Soundtrack, Pete Yorn, Jimmy Eat World


"Shay is one of the most talented drummers I've ever had the pleasure
of working with. He is a real musician that plays with taste,
incredible feeling, and he is amazingly versatile in his styles."
- Charlotte Martin
: founder, Dinosaur Fight Records



"Shay is a true professional - He is solid, has great feel and great tone - One need look no further." - Ty Stevens
: Warner/Chappell staff songwriter; wrote "Rock This World" and was Musical Director for Hillary Duff (Hollywood Records); M.D. for Jennifer Pena, Daniel Rene (Univision); wrote music for Disney, Verve, Universal, artists Mindi Abair; Musical Consultant for Aly & AJ (Hollywood Records); guitarist for Mandy Moore, countless other credits


"Shay Godwin is one of the top session drummers I've had the pleasure of working with. He's a one take wonder, which is great in the studio because time is money. Shay was extremely professional, and well prepared. He has killer sounding drums, and was able to give me all kinds of snare tones to choose from. We will be working together for many years."- Jay Ruston, Producer/Engineer/Mixer, credits include Brian Wilson, The Donnas, Abandoned Pools, Dianna Ross, American Idol, Morrissey, Polyphonic Spree, Meatloaf


"Shay has an attention to detail while working on parts in a song combined with keeping it simple and soulful. His vast knowledge of musical styles and professionalism in getting the job done in a timely manner is why I love to work with him." - Buck Johnson
: co-wrote the single "Just Feel Better" for Carlos Santana's album "All That I Am" featuring Steven Tyler of Aerosmith ; keys/vocals/guitar with country act Whiskey Falls; vocalist/keyboardist with the following artists: The Doobie Brothers (backing vocals on "Rockin' Down the Highway"-Live CD-1996), Tal Bachman (backing vocals and Keys of Columbia Records debut album -'99, Timothy B. Schmit (of The Eagles, his solo CD 2000-backing vocals and keys), Matthew Sweet (touring keys and backing vocals and "Best Of Matthew Sweet CD), Shawn Mullins (touring -2000), and John Waite



"Hey Shay, I wanted to say thanks again + great job in the studio sessions for the BFD XFL. You really did a top job covering the various brush strokes, and a lot of composers have told me they've been featured in many TV shows and movies!
All the best!"

Steve Duda
: creator of the BFD Premium Drum Module, credits include: Nine Inch Nails - Fragile - Percussion, Violin, Programming, Choir, Chorus; Pitchshifter - Deviant - Programming, Editing; Pitchshifter - Bootlegged Distorted Remixed Uploaded - Producer; Rob Zombie - American Made Music to Strip By - Remix; Methods of Mayhem - Methods of Mayhem - Programming; A Perfect Circle - Thirteenth Step - Digital Engineer


"Shay and Thai are a great team... Not only is the playing solid the sounds are great! Shay always nails it and gives me a few options to work with. I highly recommend eDrumSessions!"
-Ryan Perez-Daple
, Los Angeles: Composer, Producer, multi-instrumentalist. Credits include trailer music for "What Happens in Vegas"(20th Century Fox); "Fired Up" (Sony Pictures); production music for Killer Tracks (Universal-owned music library); numerous instrumentalist credits (woodwinds)



"When we discovered Shay our documentary project had an important deadline and little time left to meet it. Shay created and performed brilliantly, confident in his choices, yet always open to suggestion, Shay was a pleasure to work with.

Thai has built a state of the art recording facility and his post work gives the final polish of professionalism. Together they make a creative team I would suggest to anyone."

-Keith Schwalenberg
, Los Angeles
Producer/Director
Back East Productions






...and from recent email feedback by some eDrumSessions clients around the globe:



"I tried some other online drummers, you are by far the best." Luke, Germany


"I was totally blown away by the quality of the recording. By comparison with other drum recordings I have heard (some of them by other online drum recording services), your unprocessed tracks are close to the processed tracks I have heard!"


"Your drumming during the chorus clearly sets it aside in terms of energy from the verse parts, something that I find important. Your playing supports the song and even inspires me with ideas to improve it. Upright Bass, anyone?"
Henrique Pataca, Portugal



"Hey Thai , you and Shay are baddasses, the tracks sound amazing and his playing is unbelievable. I didn't edit Shay's takes and nothing was
sample replaced or enhanced at all. In this day and age, believe me, that's a great compliment."

-Gyom, Alexandria, Va USA



"Nice fills and some cool grooves dude! Exactly what I was looking for!!! All three takes sound great. I think my favourite is track 2 but I might incorporate some bits of the other takes into it as well."
Ramon McDrury, Sydney, Australia




"Hi Shay, the takes are perfect, exactly what I was after and played with real
passion, thanks so much!"
Owen Duff, London, UK



"Your process is great. The three takes is a perfect way to make sure it works. Your tracks sound great. I was very happy with the process. You and Thai Long were awesome. Your professionalism and enthusiasm, not to mention skill at your craft made this perfect." - Craig Campbell, Detroit, USA


"Shay! You nailed it! Great work. You were right. I have 'inevitable glee'. You played exactly what I imagined! I'm sure putting together a mix with your drums will be easy, but you make it hard to decide which takes I want to use..."

"Hey guys! I just wanted to thank you both for spending the extra time to nail down these tracks. You really nailed these tracks and inspire me with your playing. I'm really honored to have you guys work on this stuff and grateful."
Timothy Gillespie, New Jersey, USA

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